IS THIS THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF DEMOCRACY IN THE UK?

IS THIS THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF DEMOCRACY IN THE UK

 coalition government now cruising for a bruising over surveillance

Well first of all we start with bent MPs on the make screwing the system to pay for everything from Duck ponds to Kit Kat bars including a bunch of second homes' Clearly they believed that they could have everything they wanted because the Taxpayers always waiting in the wings to pick up the bill. Then we find out that its not surprising that MPs will not be grassed up by the police because many of them are also on the take. Sometimes they were quite obviously in it together particularly if it was anything to do with News International proprietor where there were always rich pickings. Sooner or later this was all going to come out into the light of day and the light never shone brighter than when some of the less bent journos uncovered the way to exploit the grief of parents and dead children by hacking into private phone calls and cellphone messages. Now our so called government is preparing to hand all our private online info into the hands of hackers, IE their own hackers.

We are heading for a system of on-line control similar to that of China or Iran where the state will always know who you are, where you are, and who you associate with and will eventually be able to control much of your Internet activity. Only today, China has clamped down on bloggers and an unknown number of websites. No doubt this info will then find its way into the hands of the marketing man and political manipulators who will know exactly what to do with it. This is a total disgrace in China or Iran and an even greater disgrace when we are talking about the UK especially, coming as it does from those who in opposition always objected to the surveillance society ID cards, etc. It just goes to show how little we can trust politicians of virtually all persuasions. The lib dens now have a virtually unblemished record of blatant hypocrisy over the last couple of years. If the Tories believe that this level of paranoia will avert terrorism they are even crazier and more out of touch than we already knew them to be. I would predict more terrorism rather than less. certainly its sending messages which can only help the Taliban in a recruiting drive much more than for the coalition. How can it be that at a time when we are all allegedly "in the same boat" ie. badly strapped for cash at all levels from the disibility claimant right the way up to the government departments, we can suddenly embark on even an intention to spend billions on the surveillance and database state. Thje government is still whinging about the trouble of freedom of information yet seemingly ready to gather even greater amounts of information out all of us, yet at the same time be prepared to clamp down on any info which we might rightly and understandably wish to see. If They do want their bread buttered on both sides, it will only ensure that whichever side it falls on if dropped, the bread will still be completly in

In short collecting this data for no good reason, simply wont work, its a major task with vast costs we cannot afford or have the government been lying all along as usual and actually have loads of money and there is no recession, Its an exercise in the creation of paranoia and will antagonise Islamic extremists and the taliban to send yet more or our troops home in boxes. It is we the taxpayers who will be expected to cough up all the dosh and then they really do expect the ISPs to do all this work. Camoron and his cronies, as this last week proves, really dont live in the real world of ordinary people and actually want to live in China or Iran or at leaste recreate their system here in the UK, but of course, they have consistenly demonstrated a lack of competence proving their lack of competence. Keep your nose out of our life Camoron and the same goes for the snooping hackers in the papers and their collaborators in the police and security services.

Of Course as someon said at the time of writing, the Vast majority of people have nothing to do with all this. Most people are not terrorists or serius criminals and strongly resent this as a slur on the morality of innocent users of the internet. The implication is that we are all guilty of something and no matter what Nick Clegg says about the dreaded word "Consultation" and safeguards, some of this slurring is going to stick, further removing trust in hipocritical government and all the involved departments. As the olympics draws ever closer the actual costs become ever larger, The original Costs were estimated at £2.9 BN but now they have esculated out of all controll to £9.3BN on top of this there are now at least another £2BN in costs expected to arise from this latest nonesense and as this is an early estimate, there is no reason to expect this is the end of this escalation in costs. which now looks set to exceed £12 BN New Labour were given a big kick up the arse over their Database ID and Passports legislation which the majority of people just didnt want, and now we have much more wide ranging intentions to monitor practically anything that most people regard as private and this time by the very people who opposed the original crap. Clegg will undoubtedly be held responsible for all this and will not be forgiven. If the Lib Dems are ever going to be forgiven for being the turncoats they clearly are they are unlikely ever to be taken seriously if they continue backing this kind of legislation. they are not just the party of broken promises, they are now a completely spent force in Liberal politics and are unlikely ever to be trusted again in any matter.

As if all this was not enough there are now   problems with the Ken Clarke proposal to have secret courts behind closed doors, Radio four let it slip  yesterday morning that the Americans are disturbed by the horrible habit we Brits have of disclosing information on security etc on security. And that the repressive security and surveillance measures now in the pipeline are at the behests of the men in dark suits in Washington who feel that we should be as repressive and undemocratic as they are and they think we should be tightening up our own security to bring us up to speed with them.  This to  some extent explains why both the Tories and LibDems have suddenly started calling for new measures which they vocifierously opposed when in oppositin. The coilition may yet have to abandon this regime if they are to have any hope of re-election.  Of course if Labour were to get back in, this would convenient they could      then relaunch their ID and          Database/  I wonder if the Yanks will send any dosh to New Labour to help them with their election battle in a couple of years. It would seem that on both sides of the big pond no matter who is elected the fascists will get in yet again.  More body bags are sure to be needed. 

Well first of all we start with bent MPs on the make screwing the system to pay for everything from Duck ponds to Kit Kat bars including a bunch of second homes' Clearly they believed that they could have everything they wanted because the Taxpayers always waiting in the wings to pick up the bill. Then we find out that its not surprising that MPs will not be grassed up by the police because many of them are also on the take. Sometimes they were quite obviously in it together particularly if it was anything to do with News International proprietor where there were always rich pickings. Sooner or later this was all going to come out into the light of day and the light never shone brighter than when some of the less bent journos uncovered the way to exploit the grief of parents and dead children by hacking into private phone calls and cellphone messages. Now our so called government is preparing to hand all our private online info into the hands of hackers, IE their own hackers.






We are heading for a system of on-line control similar to that of China or Iran where the state will always know who you are, where you are, and who you associate with and will eventually be able to control much of your Internet activity. Only today, China has clamped down on bloggers and an unknown number of websites. No doubt this info will then find its way into the hands of the marketing man and political manipulators who will know exactly what to do with it. This is a total disgrace in China or Iran and an even greater disgrace when we are talking about the UK especially, coming as it does from those who in opposition always objected to the surveillance society ID cards, etc. It just goes to show how little we can trust politicians of virtually all persuasions. The lib dens now have a virtually unblemished record of blatant hypocrisy over the last couple of years. If the Tories believe that this level of paranoia will avert terrorism they are even crazier and more out of touch than we already knew them to be. I would predict more terrorism rather than less. certainly its sending messages which can only help the Taliban in a recruiting drive much more than for the coalition. How can it be that at a time when we are all allegedly "in the same boat" ie. badly strapped for cash at all levels from the disibility claimant right the way up to the government departments, we can suddenly embark on even an intention to spend billions on the surveillance and database state. Thje government is still whinging about the trouble of freedom of information yet seemingly ready to gather even greater amounts of information out all of us, yet at the same time be prepared to clamp down on any info which we might rightly and understandably wish to see. If They do want their bread buttered on both sides, it will only ensure that whichever side it falls on if dropped, the bread will still be completly inedible.






In short collecting this data for no good reason, simply wont work, its a major task with vast costs we cannot afford or have the government been lying all along as usual and actually have loads of money and there is no recession, Its an exercise in the creation of paranoia and will antagonise Islamic extremists and the taliban to send yet more or our troops home in boxes. It is we the taxpayers who will be expected to cough up all the dosh and then they really do expect the ISPs to do all this work. Camoron and his cronies, as this last week proves, really dont live in the real world of ordinary people and actually want to live in China or Iran or at leaste recreate their system here in the UK, but of course, they have consistenly demonstrated a lack of competence proving their lack of competence. Keep your nose out of our life Camoron and the same goes for the snooping hackers in the papers and their collaborators in the police and security services.






Of Course as someon said at the time of writing, the Vast majority of people have nothing to do with all this. Most people are not terrorists or serius criminals and strongly resent this as a slur on the morality of innocent users of the internet. The implication is that we are all guilty of something and no matter what Nick Clegg says about the dreaded word "Consultation" and safeguards, some of this slurring is going to stick, further removing trust in hipocritical government and all the involved departments. As the olympics draws ever closer the actual costs become ever larger, The original Costs were estimated at £2.9 BN but now they have esculated out of all controll to £9.3BN on top of this there are now at least another £2BN in costs expected to arise from this latest nonesense and as this is an early estimate, there is no reason to expect this is the end of this escalation in costs. which now looks set to exceed £12 BN New Labour were given a big kick up the arse over their Database ID and Passports legislation which the majority of people just didnt want, and now we have much more wide ranging intentions to monitor practically anything that most people regard as private and this time by the very people who opposed the original crap. Clegg will undoubtedly be held responsible for all this and will not be forgiven. If the Lib Dems are ever going to be forgiven for being the turncoats they clearly are they are unlikely ever to be taken seriously if they continue backing this kind of legislation. they are not just the party of broken promises, they are now a completely spent force in Liberal politics and are unlikely ever to be trusted again in any matter.